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Adnane Ben.
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12:00:00 AM Friday Apr 4, 2003



Ok, so you are living outside of Morocco and in the outskirts of Paris ? New York ? Boston ? Montreal ? Dubai ? Geneva ? Rome ? Madrid ? Berlin ? Sydney ? some grina felakhla f Russia ? Where would you rather be ? why are you there ? or why would you wanna be there ?

Do you feel more comfortable with frnacophone countries or anglosaxone ? or arab telephone :) ?

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5:41 am    May 29, 2006
l3alam
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salut ca va
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7:30 am    February 6, 2006
houda
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je t'ai cherch? partout ...ou est tu ? que deviens tu ?? r?pond moi je nai pas de nouvelles de toi...
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7:29 am    February 6, 2006
houda
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je t'ai cherch? partout ...ou est tu ? que deviens tu ?? r?pond moi je nai pas de nouvelles de toi...
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8:37 pm    February 2, 2006
Cara
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Hey you guys,
i just found out about this website.
Other than the fact that I think it's interesting, I wanted to share how I feel: I was reading through thinking I was the only helpless one, but apparently not.
guys, we have a beautiful country, and wherever we are it always belongs to us. So don't be sad if you can't go back for a reason or another, and instead try to focus on something else.
I'm not sure if im making any sense.
I guess I just wanna say, I am proud of being moroccan, and I ask my people to feel the same way and represent us the way they wanna be represented.
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11:17 am    January 25, 2006
soufian
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10:59 am    January 25, 2006
soufian
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11:48 pm    January 24, 2006
rebelious orchid
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je c pas ca f? conbien de temps tu as ecri c mes mess ( pt't tu l'as deja oubli?) mai j trrouve que tu as bien cern? le sujet bravo j'aimerai bien reparl? + profondemen du sujet dirctement avec toi ...............contct moi berrad O.
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1:57 pm    August 12, 2005
maghriiiiiibiya
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while the circumstances that brought us to lghorba differ from one the person to the other, I think we agree that we all long to the day when we can go back Home.
One one hand, true we are "comfortable" from a financial and social perspective in our host countries, which is something not easily obtainable in Morocco: lack of privacy- always have spying eyes on you (from family and others), girls can't even leave the house whithout an escort out of fear of harassment, lack of security (lwahed ytegrissa 3la rejlih wela f tomobil), you'll never dream of getting a 6 figures salary ...
But, on the other hand, what about the family atmosphere that we all miss now that we lost it? What about the Sunday afternoon blues when you make the best berrad dial atay w ara t9ar9ib nab m3a maline dar watching l3alam riyadi or whatever else? What about the warm winter, the cripy spring, and the dry summer? What about your parents who are growing old and not growing young. What about the call that you dread the most? aji, one of your parents died (of course ala3mar biyadi lah)? iwa sir 9alab dik sa3a 3la la RAM twsalak 9bal maytedfen li mat? what if we die here ma9tou3ine men shejra? as someone eloquently put previously, your body is shipped off via FedEx if you're lucky otherwise God knows where it goes.
what about Ramadan w l3id? what about the tiny things that nostalgia make so big in our eyes now?
Hey, after all, isn't Morocco on the way to change? didn't it actually start changing already?

http://www.telquel-online.com/187/couverture_187_1.shtml

shouldn't it be on the way to be up to the standards that we got used to in our host countries?
Aren't we supposed to be the ones who can help the country be up to par? Look at the example of Ireland...
And yes, we can make the difference if we go back home. 2M featured good examples on Parcours d'Ailleurs this week and one can't help but be optimistic and that's the bottom line.
We have to be optimistic because we have a reason why. Life is too short to be spent away from our loved ones w Allah ykoune f 3awn ljami3 w ysehal li fiha lkheir 3la ljami3.
Salam,

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3:40 am    August 10, 2005
?a va bcp mieux
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Bonjour;
Moi j'ai fais mes etudes superieurs en france, rentr? au maroc avec un dip?me d'ingenieur en info, la vie n'etait pas si rose au d?part, mais avec un peu de combatitivit?, beaucoup de serieux et de travail on arrive ? se faire une place dans ce beau pays qui a si besoin de gens travailleurs et serieux, les soci?t?s cherche ?a, je pense qu'il faut au depart se contenter d'un minimum vital (materiellement parlant) chercher plus l'experiences dans des grands projets, etre vigilant (y a des gens qui vous mettent les battons dans les roues comme dans les autres pays) et travailler serieusement. c'est ma recette et dieux vous aidera
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1:48 am    July 21, 2005
Hayat
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Chers Oulad el blad,

Je suis n?e dans ce pays de m.... qu'est la France et pour moi c'est pas une question de retour. J'ai jamais v?cu dans mon beau pays mais Dieu que ce serait cool si je l'avais connu pour me faire une raison ( peut ?tre! )

J'ai une question pour tt les jeunes marocains de l'?tranger ( MRE) : qui va construire le maroc si c'est pas vous ? Des pays comme la France ou les USA ne se sont pas fait en un jour et bien des sacrifices ont d? ?tre faits par leurs citoyens.

Laisser le pays aux mains des voleurs et attendre que la "g?n?ration voleurs" meure n'est pas une solution.

Je ne parle pas pour ceux pour qui c'est une question alimentaire ... mais pour les gens qui comme bcp d'entre nous c'est vraiment une question de confort (et je ne parle pas uniquement de confort mat?riel)

Le plus ironique dans tt ?a c'est que des ?trangers ( fran?ais entre autres ) investissent au Maroc s'y installent, y font leur business, et y prosp?rent ... Eux peuvent y parvenir et pas nous ??? Faut il que ce soit eux qui nous montrent que notre pays est culturellement riche et bien d?t?e par la nature? Et le pire c'est qu on les accueille bien ? l inverse de ce qu on a tjs eu ds ce pays de m.... c'est une autre sujet .

Bref, tt ?a pour dire que le maroc ne se fera pas sans les sacrifices des marocains qui ont la volont? de r?sister au syst?me ? qui je dis Bravo, je leur souhaite de tt coeur bon courage et je leur dis aussi p ? ? bient?t...

Hayat.

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5:13 am    June 3, 2005
Zikas
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salut,
je suis marocain etudiant en france et je souhaite etablir des relations amicales.
si tu es interess?e mon email et le suivant:
zikas_22@hotmail.fr

;)

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3:28 pm    March 29, 2005
Satta
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Walabass awlad blad.I'm really really having a problem with a lot of you guys,when i left my country ,i hand up in Italy playing soccer with some italians clubs,it was nice playing there but my brothhers moroccans are not giving a good images there,so i had to leave there ,not because it wasn't nice but i didn't like the envirement.Listening to you guys complainig of being here,believe me .We should all be thankful .I've seen people living in worst conditions in Italy.Thank you all .Ciao
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11:20 am    February 26, 2005
youn
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moi je suis n? a Villepinte j'ai grandi a Aulnay-sous-bois et je vis a Tremblay...un p?rimetre de 6km.
On peut dire que je suis un pur produit de la banlieue, engrain? par la rue, montr? du doigt par les journaliste et les chtar
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12:04 am    April 17, 2003
yassine
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salut les compatriotes,
je remercie tout ceux qui ont et qui contribut a la constitution de ce site, qui est un mod?le de la d?mocratie et qui avec elle, ont peut retourner LEBLAD , d?mocratie veut dire la repartition ?quitable des richesses, NIDAM, avoir tous ces droits et faire ces obligations sans voir ni MKADEM NI CHIKH NI KAYED...
mais les choses sont entrains de changer et de s'ammiliorer, c'est ? dire que notre retoure est proche
INCHAA ALLAH.

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3:22 pm    April 16, 2003
said
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I'm living in Canada since 2000,
Personally I will never think about returning to morocco, I?m going to stay all my life outside of morocco for one reason which is :
When I have a chance to visit My BLAIDA they will call me HAHOWA AL VANCANVY JA ????
Casaoui and Rajaoui
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6:40 am    April 16, 2003
mcmehdi
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Chers compatriotes,
Je suis actuellement en France et ?a depuis 3 ans je viens d?avoir mon dipl?me mais malheureusement malgr? le fait que j?ai trouv? un employeur je ne peux pas rester en France
Car d?apr?s mon avocat je n?ai aucune chance d?avoir une autorisation de travail vu le nombre de fran?ais au ch?mage et qu'il faut previligier.
Je sais qu?il y?as partout dans le monde des marocain qui sont dans mon cas et a qui reste que deux solutions le (business mariage) ou (lahreg) pour ma part si ce n?est pas l?un sa serra l?autre mais pourquoi bon sang m?me quand on est a l??tranger ont n?arrivent pas a faire bouger les choses dans notre pays ? pourquoi ne nous organisons pas pour changer la politique marocaine qui nous a oblig? a nous expatrier et a servir les occidentaux qui nous prennent pour des merdes alors qu?ont est 100 fois plus instruit et intelligents qu?eux mais lah ghaleb ont n?as pas leur organisation (nidame).
En attendant c?est les voleurs qui continuent ? s?en mettre plein les poches chez nous et ? exploiter leurs fr?res.
Et c?est les occidentaux qui s?en r?jouissent et qui trinquent a notre division et a notre ?parpillement.
(i?m still searching for an answer but i think i?ll never find it)
Peace.
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8:27 am    April 9, 2003

Adnane Ben. message
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Hi taghzonte,

J'ai lu ton message. Pour le Francais, Raioo est nee comme un site anglais. Mais il y a beaucoup de gens qui contribu en Francais. Ca aide si l'on est bilingue. Quand tu te sens a l'aise contribu en Francais. Il y a meme des sujets qui sont presentes en Francais.

Pour moi, c'est tres simple d'avoir une Raioo en francais, mais les contributions des gens en matiere de discussions vont etre bilingues ca j'en suis sur.

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7:56 am    April 9, 2003
taghzonte
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je vois que personne madaha fiya :) merci bcp les mecs !!!!
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1:03 am    April 9, 2003
AB
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Salaam waa3alikoum

very interesting topic, it has been in my mind a lot lately especially after 9/11 . I lived in the states for close to 8 years now, I finished school here with a B.S in marketing . I tried to get a job here but no luck with the state of the economy lately. So , I drive a limousine , and it kills me because i know i can do better than that , mais allah ghaleb . Anyway , i thought about going back to morocco a lot , but i am so afraid i will not adapt to life over there. Here , it's been hard lately as you all know when you are muslim and arab, no one bothers me , but it's an inner fear that I have telling me that I am not welcome here . I must say that coming here wasn't planned . i remember that since i was in high school in casablanca, i wanted to go to france and live there , I ended up here , you see
So, will I ever go back , God I hope so , I miss my family so much, sometimes I couldn't stand them when I lived with them , but when you live alone abroad , you learn your lesson .
It is not easy , my (our ) situation : Immigrants . Let's make the best of it . We must all remember to be good muslims, to obey Allah , because death could strike us at anytime, after all it is the reason for which we were all born : to worship Allah , Let's make it our priority , and we should be fine wherever we are , because we know that paradise awaits us inchaa3allah. wa Allah A3lam
May Allah guide us all to the right path , and end this violence on the iraqi and palestinian people.
Salaam waa3alikoum wa rahmatou allah wa barakatouh

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12:35 am    April 9, 2003
oasienne
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joey i understand you my friend.When it comes to go back to morroco it is a question of moner after all, when you see rich morrocan people paying a fortune for their children studies abroad and having swiss bank accounts, you can only remain speechless. Nostalgy of the bled for those pffffffff!
For those who struggle and build theirselves by their own means i am not sure that coming back is such a good idea.
To resume if u want to go back to morroco , u better have money.
Money talks my friend, surfing between a villa in the Souissi(rabat) or Anfa,(casablanca) and a flat in florida or NY is not realy a matter of discussion if you know what i mean.
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9:28 pm    April 8, 2003
joey
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salam
i was browzing through some messages our brothers wrote to share their feelings about lebled and if we r gonna go back one day
the opinion differs from a person to another it all depends. of course you will never be comfortable unless ur back there among the familia and oulad edderb . but every has reasons some of us have to go back to take care of their parents the family and all but in my case i had to hussle like crazy back there u know living in derb asslatan casa
u sell ur clothes so u can buy sandwich and sometime u say fuck a lmakla im gonna buy some hshish so i will get fuck up i know it sounds stupid but my peoples living in the gettos of a third world country is a struggle cheese in my neighberhood is luxury i seen 10 years old kids sniffing flombo if u know what that is
some people i met here they came to school paying 30k ayear their opinion me be different than mine
respect
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1:54 pm    April 8, 2003
taghzonte
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ben bravo pour ce site . mais personnellment j'ai un problme; je veux telemnnt participer a ces dicsusions que je trouve tres interessantes mais la plupars du temps lestextes sont en anglalis est cc ma bloque car je comprends pas cette langue :) et je coirs que c'est le cas de plusieurs personnes .voila alors trouvez pour nous une solution :). et merci encore pour l'equipe du beau travail.
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6:00 am    April 8, 2003

Antr McShaddad (Yahia.L) message
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Sorry my beloved Morocco for the potato nose expression...;)_
One just has to change his contact linses, glasses or what ever he has on, or In...;) from time to time...
Potato nose and Chimpanzee mouths can be found everywhere, it just depends on what a person is zooming at...


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5:12 am    April 8, 2003

Antr McShaddad (Yahia.L) message
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All I know is that if there is anything that is irreplacable,
it is time itself.

As for one's contribution, here or there...you might take a camel or two out of a long caravane, but alone, you will not change the course of its direction...Except if we are talking about a hell of a camel. hehehe

Life is an adventure...And what ever choice one might take, we will always live with contraversies withing us, it just depends on to what extend a person can control them...
It will always remain as a
mother-son relationship, where the mother is baldhead, has a potato nose and wears "an artificial mouth" hahaha.while her son who has been away...has seen other kids abroad having a beautiful mother who blink her eyes with fashion, still teasing and has a body that seem to be in good shape, and he wishs that she would adopt him and put you in her "hala Lmadania". hehehe

It is not for nothing when they said that "Nobody choses his parents, and nobody choses his country "

Liyam ya Liyam...

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5:10 am    April 8, 2003

Antr McShaddad (Yahia.L) message
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This topic sounds like a catch 22.

In an Irish friend's office it was said :
"the longest way away, is the shortest way home"

I suppose there will come a time when our priorities will become
questionable, and since immigrants, in general, represent a small spicie of individuals away from their Home, difficult questions will arise. such as "What and who did you sacrifice your life for ? how much of your Morocanism (tradition, religion etc) have you lived during your
lifetime ? etc...

Though, nobody knows when death may strike, nobody wants
his body to be suddenly shiped by FedEx as a burial souvenir to the
remaining relatives alive in Morocco (...)
There will come a time, when a passing by year will be regarded as a year closer to one's own death or the death of a dear person in Morocco.

Every one should be able to find his own suitable formula, according to his priorities and plans, to manage such problems or solve them once and for all...

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3:28 am    April 8, 2003
TOC
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bijour:

oui, je suis d'accord avec toi oussama, tout est une question de priorit?s; et je pense (ou du moins j'esp?re) qu'avec l'?ducation conservatrice (que ?a soit au niveau de la religion, des principes ou des valeurs) qu'on a re?u au maroc; la plupart d'entre nous pr?vil?gient les valeurs morales plut?t que les valeurs mat?rielles.

TOC

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8:24 pm    April 7, 2003
Oussama
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Hi,

I'm not from any goverment or palace as you call it; I just happen to believe in the monarchy system and what it brings to the country. It's a personal opinion that stems from objective analysis and comparaison of different state administration structures, extensive research and readings and a little bit of common sense.

If you want to overlook my last comment and focus on the first part of my message, be my guest; but for god sakes, refrain from telling me again not to post messages on this forum. The purpose of the forum is exactly to have individuals with differents ideas defend their opinions, within the limits of mutual respect.

Cordially,
Oussama.

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8:22 pm    April 7, 2003
opinion
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i think that the monarchy in morocco is at least keeping the security in the country. may be thats the ony credit i can give it. but if u look at education, health, unemployment, descent homes(water and electricity) it is a disaster. so u choose, do u want security with these symptoms above or just chaos. smthg to think about.
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7:56 pm    April 7, 2003
NAJ
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TASHIH,
WHETHER HASSAN OR HIS SON MED VI IN THERE DOESN'T CHANGE THE SITUATION..
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7:52 pm    April 7, 2003
NAJ
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I AGREE W/BEYCAM.. IMMIGRATNG
SOME WHERE IN THIS PLANET F OR KNOWLEGE, WORK, SPYING OR WHATEVER THE REASON IS WE SHOULD BE REALISTIC WHETHER WE STAY WHER WE R OR GO BACK LA BLED..GOING BACK BECAUSE HASSAN II DIED, AND NOW HIS IS IN THERE SO EVERYTHING 'S GOING SMOOTH ND RIGHT IS MISTAKE..I CAN TELL THAT ONLY OUOAD FILS A PAPA WILL RETURN THERE FOR GOOD.. FOR US SUCH CRAPS 3RD CLASS MOROCCAN SUFFERED FOR MANY YEARS OVER THERE, NOWAY GOING BACK TILL COMPLETELY THESE NAMES I GREW UP WITH SUCH RABAT IS THE CAPITAL, ABDELKRIM GHALLAB STILL WORKING, OUSMAN ..AND ALL THESE FACES GONE NEW GENERATION TAKING PLACE.. TOO MUCH
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6:46 pm    April 7, 2003
Beycam
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man, I was reading your message, it was all perfect until you mentioned his name, you know who I am talking about, please, if you're from the govt or the royal palace, quit posting messages on this website, you know he's making his 2 $ million a month, does he care about you being in Montreal or casa, no way, so next time you talk about el bled, that's for moroccans, not their king, respects.
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6:06 pm    April 7, 2003
Oussama
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Hi Everyone,

I've read some of the messages posted related to this topic and I can only be glad to find out that some of us still have this idealistic picture of the returning "soldier" coming back to his country to serve it. I'm sure that most of us are realistic and know how our country is, its advantages and drawbacks and what it has to offer us, in terms of employment oppurtunities. We are all aware of what's awaiting us upon our return ! We will definitely have to adapt back to the Moroccan lifestyle, to the Moroccan mentality, the Moroccan way of doing things..which is, we all know, very much different from its occidental peer. Nevertheless, we are going back...the way I look at it : hey !! We lived there for at least 18 years (for the most of us), we also managed to adapt once to the country we live in now, we can only have an easier time adapting back to our home country !! right ? Also, if 30 millions people live there, it's most probably not that bad ?!

Finally, to sort of sum it all up, I think It's all a matter of priorities and what we want to achieve in life. My priority is my family, and my family is in Morocco...the decision is easily made !! I also share that idealistic idea of coming back with strong knowledge and savoir-faire to serve our country and make it better; especially with Our New King, His Majesty Mohamed 6 (God bless him), the strong winds of positive change are blowing..we are headed the right way.

Tbarkellah 3likoum.
Oussama.

PS: Raioo team..Keep up the good work, you guys are doing an amazing job.

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5:18 pm    April 7, 2003

Adnane Ben. message
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This is a very delicate subject, and as much as the 8 posts before me sounded like offering simple answers to the question of bled return, I personnaly believe the answer is far more difficult to construct and shape. If you are trying to find an answer, in my opinion you'd need to reach to morality, rationality, religion, dignity and personal satisfaction.

Here is an ideal classic cliche:

You leave Morocco to Europe or America with the intention to get your degree(s), get experience and then go back to Morocco to contribute to its success.

I would love to find some statistics regarding this scenario, that show how many people return to Morocco, how many among them return back to Europe/America. The numbers could shed some more light into the research.

Karim de Nancy said something beautiful as he prefers to go back to Morocco and become rich in projects, and not necessarily in money. In his philosophy he values that his richness be of work on many projects, however small they are, yet projects that can make a big difference. I respect that. It merits belief and acceptance.

There are many people like Karim who love their country much and would rather spend their mental, intellectual and physical energy in contributing to a Bled project. But the complaint that I often hear which corners this philosophy is the question of whether Morocco has the energy to jump start returning Moroccans to the same voltage they are used to perform at in their previous enviornments. Their immediate answer, based on their own personal experience or other resons, is no. As I see it and I haven't tried it yet, is that every returning Moroccan has to jump start himself to the new operating environment in the system of Morocco if he ever wishes to operate, to show basic vital signs.

You try to form yourself in, and see what you can do. You then storm because you either cannot find yourself in yet or others do not want you in, or they do not share your mindset. You could either return back where you came from or Normalize yourself so to widen your probablity of fitting in. Once you're in, it won't be long before you start performing.

That is why I personnaly notice many people favor the philosophy of finding a country where they can comfortably fit in. They just don't want to go through the storming phase. They are afraid it would take long, and they are afraid it will shrink their life to miniscule personal achievements and gratification, if none. Their major wish is not to acquire a fortune, not to acquire status, but simply to be respected for their opinion, to be appreciated for what they do, to be asked to help contribute to a change, and to be rewarded for their efforts to their surrounding. For these are reasons they live for.

This country could be Morocco for some, why not. It could also not be for others. Everyone like we say knows intimately the measurements of his own teapot. Everyone knows what works for them.

Most important, everyone develops a quality throughout life that depicts to them how MUCH shit, bullshit and arrows they can take and resist before giving up. Some people want it easy. Others are aware that they have to resist the bee stings if they want to eat the honey; in that, they must find joy and satisfaction and soon forget about the pains.
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1:49 pm    April 7, 2003
karim
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j ai lu ces messages, et je peux dire que je suis fi?re d ?tre marocain.
de ma part j envisage de rentrer au maroc cet ?t? je viens de finir mes ?tudes je reviens avec un dipl?me d ing?nieur clef en main.
Notre pays a besoin de nos mes fr?res, les temps changes le pays nous appelle m?me si avec nos dipl?me on gagnera trois ou quatre fois moins qu ici en France ou au USA mais vivra d?autant plus mieux et qui sait on peut faire beaucoup de projets ??
Vive tous les marocains et pour un maroc de demain meilleur et prosp?re ..
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12:04 pm    April 7, 2003
Adamos
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salut tt le monde,
eh oui moi aussi je suis de montreal, pour etudes mais j ai vraiment pas l intention ou meme le plus petit des soupcons a rester ici apres la fin de mes etudes, notre pays a besoin de nous et nous avons besoin de nous sentir sur nos terres, l exode des cerveaux est devenue un phenomenes et ca ne va qu 'apauvrir notre cher pays....
Oui c vrai qu 'a montreal c beau c riche c civilise mais il faid froid chose a quoi je ne vais peut etre jamais m en habituer, c pk je demande a tous les marocains qui etudies ici et je les implore de revenir au maroc au servire les biens de la communaute marocaine....Vive Mohammed 6 , vive le Maroc Lhabib et vive les marocains ........
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11:07 am    April 7, 2003
Esher
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Please excuse my French...
I am Moroccan living in Seattle, I joined America to work for this company: Microsoft. I made all my studies in Morocco, so homesickness is an issue sometimes.
Where would I prefer to be? Maybe in Hawaii, maybe in Iraq, I don't know. Today we are living in a small world and the fact that we are not living close to our families is not as hard as it used to be. And in order to support my blad, I do not have to be there, I can do it from anywhere "if I want to".
If we, Arabs or Muslims, are having difficulties in living abroad (racism...), it is our duty to change this.

Godel, Esher and ...

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9:13 am    April 7, 2003
The_Loft
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This Subject is by far the most interesting so far. je suis marocain de Casablanca, ca fait 7 ans ke je suis au states, New York plus precisement, je suis venu pour faire mes etudes, comme on dit chez nous matemchi ghir fin ma mecahk llah. Dans mes projets je compte rentrer chez moi inchallah (maroc), parce ke tu vas n'importe ou, tu t'intergres au max mais tu ne te sens jamais chez toi, en ce ki concerne notre ami TOC, je tiens a dire ke c pareil partout, il n'y a aucune diferrence entre pays anglophone and francophone, tt le monde est raciste surtout envers les arabes et musulmans, aussi tu sens ke les gens te traitent differnement, mais bon on fait avec. par contre on trouve des gens ki sortent de la norme et sont neutres envers les etrangers. En fin de compte un truc est sur ON EST JAMAIS BIEN QUE CHEZ SOI.
Pour le moment je suis la afin d'acquerir certains buts. en ce moment je voudrais bien etre au maroc aupres de mes proches, mais bon KOULCHI 9RIB 3END LLAH SOUB7ANHO. et pour un pays angophone ou francophone, ou arabo telephone LOL, c vraiment pas la ou les problemes ou le confort se pose, parce ke la ou tu vas tu es expose aux problemes, pour moi y a vraiment pas de difference, c pas vraiment un probleme pour m'intergrer soit US, Angleterre ou france suisse blegique, c ce ke tu as ds la tete et koi comme buts tu as ds la vie, c ce ki nous fait avancer chake jour de notre vie, LES BUTS DS LA VIE.
Sur ce Salam
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4:39 am    April 7, 2003
Moroccan in Sweden
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Better than my home country my home town doesn?t exist. Almaghrib makaynch fhalou! I?am planing to move back to Morocco, to feel my existens, to feel no racisme, I want to be where the people doesn?t say to me:"Oh you do not drink sprit, are you moslem???" I want to be close to my old mother, close to my brothers and sisters, and all wlad derb!!! Let?s move back if you are like me, swedish, american, somalian eller whatever. Better than Morocco makaynch!
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11:27 pm    April 6, 2003
naj
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I liked the picture, it shows how important the islam is presented in Europe, and it's true though.. France is not religious as the socialism system is governing the country. The only beleivers now r these ppl from north africa and moslem francophone.. May Allah protect or Islam, preserve our Oumma, AND GUIDE US FOR THE BEST AND DESTROY THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM AND ARAB CIVIIZATION.
AMIIIIIIIIIIINE

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3:11 pm    April 6, 2003
Fatocha
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Salame,

Je suis tout a fait d'accord avec toi. Mon experience a debute en France ou la xenophobie y regne en maitre absolu! Ca a ete un vrai parcours du combattant.

De mon cote, je ne sais plus pourquoi je suis ici! A la base, pour les etudes et puis ca a ete pour la carriere professionnelle et ensuite la peur de perdre mon confort ici, la peur de redemarrer autre chose ... Et pourtant le Maroc me manque tellement. Je sais que je ne serai jamais dans mon element ici a 100%. I am so Moroccan! Et avec tout ce qui se passe en ce moment, je me sens plus que jamais marocaine, musulmane et arabe!

Je voudrais tellement avoir le courage de tout laisser tomber ici et repartir au bled! Aurais-je le courage de le faire un jour? Qui sait? Je pense qu'au fond de moi meme je le souhaite tres fort!

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2:57 am    April 5, 2003
TOC
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bijour:

en ce qui concerne le lieu o? je voudrais ?tre maintenant, c'est aupr?s des miens, chez moi au maroc.je suis venu ici pour continuer mes ?tudes, et j'esp?re qu'une fois finies je rentrerai chez moi... mais ?a reste qu'on sait pas ce qui peut arriver... le futur est pour allah, seul, et j'ai confiance en lui.
mais sinon, j'estime que les pays anglosaxons sont plus accueillants, (peut ?tre avec leur comportement neutre envers les gens!), parceque l? o? je suis(france), c'est un pays de M?fiance, Cr?dulit? et Contradiction.

d'ailleurs si vous avez le temps de lire : "les carnets du major thompson", ?crit par daninos.
c'est l'histoire de la france vu par un anglais; tr?s amusant comme bouquin.

et comme l'a dit Ambrose bierce:
"Immigrant. Individu mal inform? qui pense qu'un pays est meilleur qu'un autre."

amicalement
TOC

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